Curse

SerenitySilverstar · Jan 11, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by DoH

Id like you to go to ur guild hall, have someone accept a party invitation from you as the party leader. Then click LEAVE GUILDHALL. you will bring the other person with you...

That is what i mean by force...

But then you carried on, fought monsters, completed the battle, picked up the loot. You then continued to benefit from your doings, whether it was keeping the loot or on selling it. You may have done this repeatedly when you discovered how cool and easy it was to make money.

You weren't forced to do any of that.

pochoWICKED · Jan 11, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

It was like a drug.
The 117 people should go to rehab for a while.
Then get their accounts back.

Tagne · Jan 11, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by tanis616

You should have saw that there was no outpost called Ebony Citadel of Mallyx when you first fought there and saw that it was just a zone.

Yeah really just because the deep and urgoz aren't shown on the map doesn't mean they are there. Do you seriously think people who zone into this place as well as urgoz and deep and thinking OMG MUST BE HAXX !!!

Azarr#1 · Jan 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Anet does not have the resources to actually watch what peoples gaming redords are that would take up so much memory. Anet needs to get people on know and simply check to see if their account has any code changes in it that looks like they may have hacked the game. because only those people are the serious threats to changing the economy ingame.

Arkantos · Jan 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Tagne

And someone that has given over 200$ to anet and have got banned for just being zoned there were banned because they "abused an exploit"

Which, for about the 4th time, I agree that they shouldn't have been banned. But the people who simply went to the outpost and left, they did not abuse this exploit. I'm talking about people who abused it, as in killed Mallyx.

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did i say they should play favourites, no i think i said they should look at their gaming history, alot of people abuse their gaming rights alot more than what other people do. and i as being a gw player would like it if those things got taken into consideration before being banned.

Banning people with 1 campaign and letting a person who did the same thing with all 4 campaigns is picking favorites, is it not? They favor the person for buying all 4 campaigns, and they don't ban them.

Their gaming history is irrelevant. They violated the EULA and should be banned, simple as that.

isamu kurosawa · Jan 11, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by i am a princess

what i don't get is, why dosen't Anet look at those 117 people's gaming records and make their judgement off that. some of those people maybe having their accounts banned for the first time. some people like myself have bought all campaigns and character slots and expansion pack. i'm not sure about you guys but i want that to count for something even if its juts a game.

Probably the same as the duping incident. they have banned everyone who currently has a character that can enter this outpost to prevent any further access then they will work from there and sort out those who should be banned and those who shouldn't.

If thats the case then those who do get their accounts back will at least know better in the future and good riddance to those who stay perma banned.

Tagne · Jan 11, 2008, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Which, for about the 4th time, I agree that they shouldn't have been banned. But the people who simply went to the outpost and left, they did not abuse this exploit. I'm talking about people who abused it, as in killed Mallyx.

I never knew you could be banned for killing Mallyx for the first time, i better just roll up in a ball in a corner and just let level 3 gargoyle kick me to death followed my uninstalling gw and breaking all of my disks in half so i can't be banned

Arkantos · Jan 11, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by i am a princess

here's a thought, someone give names of other online pc games that have hacks in... and then Anet can tell us it was an exploit of agreement

...what? This is relevant how?

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I never knew you could be banned for killing Mallyx for the first time, i better just roll up in a ball in a corner and just let level 3 gargoyle kick me to death followed my uninstalling gw and breaking all of my disks in half so i can't be banned

Killing mallyx the way it's intended != killing mallyx from citadel outpost without clearing DoA.

Tagne · Jan 11, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Ok and heres something that i would want to know about, if somebody "hacked" this into the game, why would they do this kind of thing when they can "hack" themselves armbraces instead?

isamu kurosawa · Jan 11, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by i am a princess

hey playing fair is like asking for a miracle to stop over charging for items that cost either alittle more or a little less. then tell me about being fair. how is it fair that people got banned for the things that apparantly Anet class as being exploited, how is it fair that Anet makes a mistake and yet people get punished for it.

In no way did anet make a mistake, the exploit involved a hack to access a debug area used by devs in the game and was obviously not legit.

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Originally Posted by Tagne

Ok and heres something that i would want to know about, if somebody "hacked" this into the game, why would they do this kind of thing when they can "hack" themselves armbraces instead?

This hack most likely involves manipulating info sent from your own pc to the gw server to say "map me here". Creating items from scratch would require direct access to the gw servers and is completely different.

Azarr#1 · Jan 11, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07

Comeon Anet has more problems then any game out there this game shouldnt screw people out of their money. because their upset hasnt changed anything in the economy in the first place armbraces have been the same price since Gwen came out.

scrinner · Jan 11, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Pariah Hellfire

I am left thinking why they have left these "hidden outposts for testing purposes" active in the game..would it not be so easy to remove them when content is finally added with a new build?

I am also a little concerned for my account status,I have just purchased a few things from the GW store and if these ingame exploits are apparently easily hacked,what's to stop people from obtaining my Mastercard information through "client side hacking in the GW store?"

I think it's great Anet has jumped on rectifying the situation,and on the whole I feel this is still the single most secure and well maintained "online" franchise in terms of security.

It's still an inconvienient fact that people will try and exploit video games.

You dont understand client side hacking if you believe they can take your master card number... Here's how it was taught to me.

1. Player : Hey game.. go take me to ascalon city

2. *Program on the players computer*: No no game! He meant HELL'S PRECIPICE.

3. The Game : Aye aye capn!

I believe the only reason the game let them go there was because the only layer of validation would be the players map... Normal players cant skip because they dont have the area on the map. So they cant click on the little button to tell the game to take them there. The hack works arounds that.

It never was anything on the server side. Atleast i dont think so.

DoH · Jan 11, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Something like this could not have been found by mistake. Whoever first discovered the exploit was looking for exploits in the first place.

i Agree with this, whoever initially discovered this exploit should be banned, and not everyone that fell 'victim' to whoever hacked the game and were not apart of the 'exploit' part of this glitch

Cuthroat Dibbler · Jan 11, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

The more I read (and that includes the "admissions" of now banned players over this latest episode) the more I feel that the same players are returning to compromise the game again and again. The same Guilds have their tags associated with dupers/exploiters etc. and whats more some of these tags are from some very high profile Guilds. Now it "might" be coincidence but it strikes me that the same Guilds and a "core" of players are causing these problems.

I for one, am losing confidence in this game on a now hourly basis. I won't be a drama queen and say I'm quitting, but I cannot honestly say I'm inspired to play when aspects of this game are so clearly loaded against me.

Do I blame ANet? Not directly as such, but I have to question policies that allow serious exploits and bugs to remain in the game for anything up to 6 months. I know GW2 is important but is it really coming at the expense of all decent GW1 activity.

The Wintersday holidays were an eye opener. Standing in LA for hours and hours paid dividends in terms of "ingame info" and there were many players quite boastful of their knowledge of existing exploits. So, much of this is not new, I'm sure many on this forum could fill in the details.

The appearance of these problems are becoming far more regular than is healthy and leaves me (and others I'm sure) wondering whether this horse has actually bolted?

When its a acknowledged fact that people have exploited the game to the point that an item has become valuable to the tune of $37,000+ then theres a problem, a real DEEP problem. Deep enough for me to question my allegiance.

Mickey · Jan 11, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I've come to the conclusion that unless you EXTREMELY exploited this area, like, hard core farming, you shouldn't be banned. If you broke the rules on purpose, sure, shower on a 72 hour ban, Anet fixed this area today right? If you farmed it hardcore, perma-ban, I mean, hardcore as in, Armbraces made, multiple.

free_fall · Jan 11, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

"No wonder when few weeks ago I went to sell my mallyx shields and in euro dist someone was selling it for like 10-15k. I was like wtf! I thought these shields are rare and hard to get as I worked my ass off and finally after like 10 times of opening mallyx chest they finally dropped for me but I kept both shields and gave up idea of making any money off them."

Holy crap! Two days ago I bought one of these shields for, yes, 15k.

Saw someone advert it, quickly looked it up on the wiki, thought "hmm, nice looking shield" so I bought it. I really don't keep up on these things so I have no idea what this thing normally goes for, figured it was something like the Exalted Aegis, which are running 8-10k nowadays.

Kind of strange to think that the person who sold it to me might now be one of those 117.

Whatever, the Koss who got it is quite pleased.

Pariah Hellfire · Jan 11, 2008, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Scrinner:I will be the first to admit, I know nothing about hacking.I don't necessarily "believe" my Mastercard number will be stolen..but if it's something that concerns me I will address it..these twits who think it's amusing to hack the client may also be edumacated enough to find it funny to "charge" something on my dime.

My actual point was if someone was able to "hack" the GW .dat file and locate the hidden outposts,whats to stop them or any other "more industrious" people from discovering more backdoors.Maybe I'm just a little wary about peoples abilities when they exceed mine in certain areas.

Harrier's haste · Jan 11, 2008, 04:27 AM // 04:27

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Originally Posted by Mickey

I've come to the conclusion that unless you EXTREMELY exploited this area, like, hard core farming, you shouldn't be banned. If you broke the rules on purpose, sure, shower on a 72 hour ban, Anet fixed this area today right? If you farmed it hardcore, perma-ban, I mean, hardcore as in, Armbraces made, multiple.

And you can probably bet that some people did. But yeah I agree with you, depends on how much you earned from this exploit, it wouldn't see fair for all that 2 years of gaming effort going down the drain.

But Anet probably wanted this as a stiff warning.....and they might or might not have their own reasons for banning people.

Well, take your anger out on Anet in this post while it's still open!

Mickey · Jan 11, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Anet just denied me again, I am still permanently banned, and losing hope fast.

I said on the first page I unthinkably used it 6 times, 1 to actually finish the quest that I wanted done, then 5 more times because my friend said it was ok, and that it wasn't a hack or an exploit. Then I bought a shield, and gave it to a PvP friend for his use. I made around 18 k off this, oh, and a perma-ban, so yay.

Zehnchu · Jan 11, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

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Originally Posted by i am a princess

what people are missing here is...

those people who've worked hard to create their accounts to get all the cool stuff they have on them, is now lost because of one stupid mistake. they made a wrong choice and yes their paying for it now, but do they really deserve to lose everything they've worked hard for??

Yes, because if you have been playing that long you should have known better.
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If you where unwillingly taken to this outpost then you should have left the moment you got there. How ever if you then continued to enter the game and then repeat you deserve the punishment. Think about, if an outpost does not show up on your map and you had to relay on getting mapped there by means of another person (Other then Urgoz & Deep being the only exceptions) then there is something really wrong.

There is a thing called accountability for one’s own actions.

Look how many people who didn't abuse this exploit.